Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

By Timothy R Butler | Posted at 3:36 PM

I posted the following to CS-FSLUG and CMUG and I thought asisaid readers might be interested as well. Help me out in the war against SPAM by responding in the comments! Also, please consider posting a link to this on your blog — if the news spreads, maybe we can get more support for this project.



Hi everyone, I'm not sure if you've noticed this, but I've found a really troubling occurrence over the past year. Christians [are] using spam as a medium for advertising. And, I'm not talking about variations of the Nigerian scam.

For instance, I've been signed up for several “Christian” newsletters that appear to be genuine, and even one from a well known Christian publisher, without my consent. One sends me three copies of each issue of the newsletter.

I could just unsubscribe, but I think that — in the long run, anyway — fails to accomplish anything. These organizations are still using very disturbing means to get out their message. Thus I got an idea: a blacklist of Christian Spammers. I'll create a list of all of the organizations who seem to be doing this and place them on them on the web. The page will encourage Christians to avoid these organizations, or at least their e-mail services, until such time as they “repent” of this. I will then contact them and provide them with a simple way to be removed: delete any and all subscribers they have added through means other than legitimate opt-in sign ups.

Obviously, they could lie and fail to delete all of the subscribers, but there is a simple way to test this: I will contact them using an address other than one that they presently have. Thus, the only way they can remove me (and thus convince me that they have “done the right thing”) is to remove all unsolicited subscribers (well, there are other means, but at least I won't make it easy). [Likewise, if others provide me with reports, they can let me know if the company quits spamming them after I contact them.]

The reason I'm posting this is that I'm hoping to get some more reports of Christian spammers. Especially ones who repeatedly send spam out — the kind that perhaps spam you every week or every day (as some do to me). It is my hope that when they are publicly confronted about this, they will relent (my attempts at private correspondence have failed to get the desired results).

There are two reasons I see for doing this: (1) I just really despise spam. I get so much of it, my mailbox would be useless if not for client side spam filtering and SpamAssassin on the server. (2) I don't want non-Christians to be getting spammed by Christian organizations and thus start grouping Christians with the less tasteful groups that usually spam. I'm sure some mean well by this, but its wrong all the same, and I think it would be good to put a stop to it before it gets any worse.

So, what do you say? Would you send those spammers' organizational web sites, e-mail addresses, etc. my way?

-Tim

If you prefer to send reports by private e-mail to me, that is fine as well. I will not share your name with spammers either way.

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7 comments posted so far.

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Right now I seem to be running enough fingers crossed filters (about 3) that I don’t seem many spam e-mails in the inbox. But if I get any I will send it your way.

Posted by Christopher - Jul 20, 2004 | 3:57 PM- Location: MO

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Nice idea. I don’t get much, if any, spam from Christian groups though. There are some I’ve had but they were some time ago. I’ll make sure I send any I get your way, though. (FWIW, I filter all the emails SpamAssassin marks as spam into another folder in Evolution, meaning they’re out of the way of normal viewing but easily accessible otherwise. I also colour-code emails depending on how many stars SA gives the mail, which helps me easily visually skip past spams.)

BTW, sorry I haven’t replied to your comment on my LiveJournal yet. If it’s okay, I’ll answer it here. I don’t actually use a control panel on the new server - I’m setting everything up myself. But I can point you towards some

Posted by Ciaran - Jul 20, 2004 | 4:21 PM- Location: England, UK

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Aside from my enthusiastic reply on CS, it occurs to me a lot of Christian spam comes from visiting a certain type of Christian website, I believe. Any place that requires a registration will have a database. Whether they share it, or it is simply compromised, that’s a source of spam.

I think worst of all are those heart-warming, heart-rending, sentimental messages that people love to pass around. They usually forward with the TO: and FROM: headers displayed in-line. Thus, somewhere in the passing around, after collecting 15 sets of headers, they are picked up by someone who spams, or harvests addresses for spammers.

Posted by Ed Hurst - Jul 20, 2004 | 8:29 PM- Location: Rural SE Texas

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

I haven’t seen as much spam here lately, but if I see any that fit this description I’ll let you know!

Posted by Pressed - Jul 20, 2004 | 9:31 PM- Location: MO

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Linked :). We need to spread the word.

Posted by Eduardo - Jul 21, 2004 | 7:39 AM- Location: Asunción, Paraguay, South America

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Even though I don’t have a spam problem, you have my support.

http://www.falconportal.com/family/blog_main.php?blog_id=135

Posted by Mark - Jul 21, 2004 | 2:28 PM- Location: MA

RE: Moving Forward with the War Against SPAM

Thanks Mark and Eduardo and Christopher for the links!

I’m going to gather together the suggestions I’ve received so far and see what I have.

Posted by Timothy R. Butler - Jul 23, 2004 | 1:19 AM- Location: MO

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